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![[*]](./images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif) posted on 9-3-10 at 12:01 PM |
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ABA CIS-E?
Just bouncung some ideas off of everyone. If i were to use a 16v manifold, and 16v CIS-E, technically it would run an OBDI ABA right? In theory, I
think it would work, just want to hear what everyone else has to say. Discussssssssss!
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 12:11 PM |
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why?
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 12:17 PM |
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I don't understand the reason for the 16v manifold. Are you also running a 16v head? The ports are different between 8v and 16v.
Now running an ABA on CIS (of any flavor), that should work just fine. CIS doesn't care what the engine specs are, as long as you don't have any
leaks. It reads the air flow and spits out fuel to match.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 12:27 PM |
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Donal=
So an 8v intake mani would work?
GmanX=
I'm just interested is all. 
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cbs88gti
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 12:27 PM |
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And no, its a bone stock ABA, as standard as they come.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 01:50 PM |
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Changing a 8v counterflow head over from digi to CIS and back is a matter of swapping out the injector seats.
IIRC, the ABA had injectors in the mani like a 16v or the older audi 8v motors, so I start looking there for CIS seats that will fit the ABA.
You may need 16v fuel lines and injectors, depends on how it all goes together. Might even need some Benz or Volvo lines out of the junkyard, depends
on how you plan to run them.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 01:56 PM |
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I have everything from a 16v GTI, from the k jetronic unit to the injectors. I think it would be an interesting setup to have, considering I can't
find any pics of an ABA running CIS injection. It would make the mk2 ABA swap even easier imo.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 02:21 PM |
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Yes, it would make everything easier. Match up the two manifolds and see if the injectors of one will work for the other or what has to be done to
make that happen.
And yes, CIS makes engine management very easy. Just make sure you have all the CIS sensors, the later ones are likely to read on a different scale
and you'll find no end to the trouble of chasing down sensor problems.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 03:03 PM |
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JD has all of the sensors i think. I may actually do this, even though I have all of the harnesses and fuse box for a mk3 and the dash and heater
piping, gauges, ecu, etc. etc. for a complete mk3 into mk2 swap. I just dont want to have to splice the shit out of any harnesses. I suck at wiring.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 04:00 PM |
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You want me to come over some time and look at what you've got? Let you know how I think it's going to have to go together?
If you want to strip the car out and do it right, the stock ABA harness and injection will work best. If you just want to get the damn thing running,
CIS may be the easier path.
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| posted on 9-3-10 at 06:46 PM |
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I just sold a friend my rabbit that had an ABA bottom end, mechanical counterflow head with a fatt 300+* cam. it had CIS basic and it was a rocket.
CIS was developed for Turbo porsches and never had any problems. the trick is finding a tech that can adjust it or learning how to adjust it yourself.
Here you go:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4646417-I-m-trying-to-Learn-About-C...
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| posted on 9-4-10 at 04:09 PM |
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You need pistons and integration parts as well. . JE or OE Abf. Either pistons will work. As donal said.. The fuel dizzy doesn't know the difference
between a 9a and aba/f. And CIS-e.... You can use 8v WUR and knock box. You need the neck and boots for the 16v TB. then tune it up some.. Not too
hard really.
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| posted on 9-4-10 at 04:33 PM |
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Don't be shy just jump into it and see what happens. Go until your stuck then ask for help. then go again. Never learn if you don't try.
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| posted on 9-5-10 at 09:29 AM |
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why downgrade?
because owning a VW is a LOVE/HATE thing, so drive the shit out it....
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| posted on 9-5-10 at 03:50 PM |
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Ive seen a aba with the counterflow head running CIS but they made a custom intake manifold for the injectors.
Casey Ive thought about throwing CIS on my Golf haha Digi is a bitch.
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| posted on 9-5-10 at 05:05 PM |
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CIS on a counterflow head requires custom nothing except injector inserts.
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