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[*] posted on 6-2-12 at 12:59 PM


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Blah blah blah
The "Ford truck rebadged as a Mazda" was actually a Mazda truck produced during the period when Ford had a sizeable stake in Mazda. All the Rangers that resembled the Mazda B-series were originally derived from Mazda talent---or lack thereof. I owned an '87 B2600 4x4 extra-cab stick shift and there was a reason the maker of the best-selling American vehicle (F150) copied the Japanese when it came to its mini-truck, but at the same time, this was miles away from a Toyota mini-truck...oh, by the way, which Toyota is terrible at making anymore for the American market at least.

ALL CARS ARE SHITBOXES

Show me one with parts that are durable and reliable; one that is made to be serviced, not just assembled once; one with a quality interior (cloth seats, headliner that lasts 30 years, etc); one whos parts only change because they actually improved; one that doesn't need zillions of special tools or dealer-only parts that won't even be available in 20 years; one that doesn't need a dealer code scanner; one that doesn't have federally mandated safety features (airbags everywhere, tire pressure monitoring, backup cameras which are coming, stability control; start-stop; interference design; compact spare; blind spot warnings; and the devil's own creation--reverse lights that fricking come on when you unlock the car. Oh, and give me something that can actually tow 2000 pounds and is only two wheel drive.

I wanna full-bodied Atom or something like a cross between that and a checker cab






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[*] posted on 6-2-12 at 02:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 2000GLXStick  
Blah blah blah
The "Ford truck rebadged as a Mazda" was actually a Mazda truck produced during the period when Ford had a sizeable stake in Mazda. All the Rangers that resembled the Mazda B-series were originally derived from Mazda talent---or lack thereof.


Mazda B-Series (See Ford Ranger (North America) for the North American version sold from 1994.)

Mazda's partnership with Ford has resulted in the sharing of this vehicle as the Ford Courier, and later as the Ford Ranger. However, it should be borne in mind that the Mazda B-Series and Ford Ranger twins sold in North America are unrelated to the ones sold elsewhere. These are engineered by Mazda, whereas the North American models are developed by Ford.


Mazda B-Series

The North American 1994 Proceed/B-Series was new, the design having been merged with the Ford Ranger. Mazda continued to manufacture its own trucks in Japan and elsewhere, but for the North American market, the design was shared, as were the engines.


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[*] posted on 6-2-12 at 04:59 PM


So Mazda switched to a crappy Ford to avoid the 25% tariff on imported light trucks and it was such a failure, they stopped selling them a few years later.

That tariff by the way is the whole reason we don't have more awesome buses and other Type 2s running around!!!!!!!! :ahhh::ahhh::ahhh::ahhh:

We've been suffering from 48 years of this bullshit...no wonder I can't buy a decent small truck.
Never knew about some of the abominations related to this legislation...like the reason for the seats in the bed of the Brat...or the fact that ALL Transit Connects are shipped with rear glass and seats which are removed in Baltimore...or the Sprinter make it | break it | make it again two-step...or why the Mahindra never came here ready-to-drive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax


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[*] posted on 6-2-12 at 09:44 PM


Welcome to America, where if it moves (our even if it doesn't), we'll tax, litigate, and regulate the bitch right through the headboard.

Tariffs and trade regulation killed more than just the bus. Isolationist economic policies are a hallmark of burgeoning collectivist movements. Open the global market. Liberate the free trade economy. Cut this tit for tat shit. Enjoy capitalism. Produce and consume.




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That's the smell of 41 years of BUG, son. Breathe deep ... that's history you're smelling. :heartbeat:

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[*] posted on 6-3-12 at 10:02 AM


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199? Toyota MR2 - full Turbo conversion, OEM LSD, Tokico dampers, Eibach springs, TRD sways, High&Tight links, Strut brace, Short Shifter, Turbo brakes, Turbo wheels, Speedsource shift bushings, Spec clutch and flywheel, Berk catback, Omori boost guage, Alpine MP3, custom subs, tint
1964 Beetle, freshly built 1200, 12volt, tall 3rd gear, Gauge package, dual-circuit brakes, EMPI wheels, late swingaxle oil control.
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[*] posted on 7-13-12 at 03:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by KarenTheBug  

I will admit the Aveo wasn't a bad car. I had one as a rental once when my watercooled was in the shop, and I did pretty well with it. The interior felt a little on the cheap side, but the rest of it was great (for what it was).

Really? I got one when I requested a Yaris. It didn't have cruise control, the AC turned off when going over 70, and it was shakey at interstate speeds. My '88 VW even has cruise control and it's was the base model.
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[*] posted on 7-13-12 at 04:06 PM


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Blah blah blah
; and the devil's own creation-

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I've always wanted to have words with whoever came up with that.
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[*] posted on 7-13-12 at 04:11 PM


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Really? I got one when I requested a Yaris. It didn't have cruise control, the AC turned off when going over 70, and it was shakey at interstate speeds. My '88 VW even has cruise control and it's was the base model.


Could have just been a rental that was rode hard and hung up wet before you got it. The one I had when I rented had really low mileage (under 10k, which was shocking for a rental). I think mine had cruise, not sure.

You also have to remember what it is, and what it is NOT - they were designed to be city cars, so things like cruise control are not going to be standard, and they're not designed to handle like a finely engineered sportscar at top highway speeds.

They do what they were designed to do very well, but that's all they do :thumbsup:




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PPLS CAR - 2000 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS (reverse engineered from UFOs): Valerie-Sunflower

"I don't want to take your car ... it's too small and smells fuckin' weird."

That's the smell of 41 years of BUG, son. Breathe deep ... that's history you're smelling. :heartbeat:

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[*] posted on 7-17-12 at 11:30 AM


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PPLCAR - 1971 Volkswagen Type 1 Sedan 1300 (ugly is only skin deep): Karen-Starshine
PPLS CAR - 2000 Volkswagen New Beetle GLS (reverse engineered from UFOs): Valerie-Sunflower

"I don't want to take your car ... it's too small and smells fuckin' weird."

That's the smell of 41 years of BUG, son. Breathe deep ... that's history you're smelling. :heartbeat:

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